welcome tim !

Here we will post all original accusations and arguments people who hate onecoin wrote all over blogs and comments. We will deeply analyze, dissect and answer everything with objective arguments. People will be left to decide which arguments are more logical and true to them
flatrate
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welcome tim !

Post by flatrate » Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:55 pm

to be fair i loathe people like you and the bloated circus ape MR. Alberts.. two nasty turds IMO..

the reason i say that is not be rude or unkind, but truthful about how useless you both are.

1. the fat bastard brought in 350k people into ONE and bailed at first sign of trouble..
2. you have been sniffing ruja's panties for going on 4 yrs without one charge or arrest..

do you see how odd this looks for the rest of us who are here for the vision not the greed ?

I am sure you will disagree but here it goes..

common ground argument:

1. the internet is overwhelmed with fraud/abuse/crime
2. digital currency is a playground for illegal activity (far too many to mention but the newest one with roger ver and charlie lee on twitter is nasty and many coins have been lost)
3. we need a solution for this huge problem

IMO, you know full well that the only TRUE WAY FORWARD is to be KYC compliant. you should know that there is a ton of fraud/abuse/illegal activity/money laundering/mistakes and the only way to fix it is KYC. example, if you steal 100 btc from me i will be able to track you down and get my coins back and hopefully have a hand in sending you to jail. what safeguard is in place now? nada...
https://www.ccn.com/china-will-likely-r ... exchanges/

once again, IMO, if ONE is able to finally eradicate the real substantive problems with why most people will pass in dealing with digital currency, what do you think will become of the likes of bitcoin,eth,lite ?? yes, history.. normal people can't deal with 20k coin this week and 5k next week.

finally, IMO, this is the exact reason bitcoin crazies like yourself will scream bloody murder and slander. ONE has the capability of putting this slimy good for nothing (accept maybe trading) market to bed already.

ONE puts your bitcon fantasy at risk my friend. if ONE losses you and your bitcon win. i have more but i'll leave it there.. :o :o

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Re: welcome tim !

Post by Igorkrnic » Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:25 pm

As sane and true as all this is, I'm afraid people who bash onecoin do not understand what you just wrote.
Most of them are geeks who love the open source idea where a project is ran by users, an anarchy. Although they fail to see that even in anarchy someone runs the show.
The other part are people who actually still dream that onecoin is a scam project to begin with. I really do not want to comment on that one any more.

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Re: welcome tim !

Post by flatrate » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:53 pm

IGOR, I used to think the tim types were either mentally off or simply earning a paycheck, but i have revised that this past year. although they may or may not be getting paid to bash ONE i now believe the reason is simple and straight forward.

1. how many normal people without ties to bitcoin trash ONE ? very few
2. how many people with ties to bitcoin trash ONE ? almost all

friends, why is it that you never hear about the KYC in the blockchain ? scams-frauds-cheats-mistakes-hacks are common with digital coins..these great sites are just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to online digital currency scams.

https://etherscamdb.info/scams
http://www.badbitcoin.org/thebadlist/

ready, do you realize that the ONE KYC in the blockchain would dispose of 100% of the scam artists ? its literally the cure for cancer so to speak but not one word is ever uttered about it. why might that be ?

i will tell ya why IMO, the entire CURRENT digital coin landscape including most ICO's are one big ball of shite with bad actors-criminals-scammers-hyper day trading fiend addicts- that thrive in this environment. not a place for an honest joe so to speak.

the slouches like tim and his ilk want this insane unfair totally corrupt market to continue and they realize that if ONE is successful the majority of normal people will gravitate to ONE instead of the current online crypto casinos. ONE is a threat to the rigged game..

KYC is the key to leveling the playing field and you can bet you will not hear one positive thing about the only blockchain that implements KYC into its blockchain..

people like tim have a vested interest in NEEDING ONE TO FAIL TO KEEP THIS SHAM GOING.. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Re: welcome tim !

Post by Igorkrnic » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:56 pm

flatrate wrote:
Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:53 pm
ready, do you realize that the ONE KYC in the blockchain would dispose of 100% of the scam artists ? its literally the cure for cancer so to speak but not one word is ever uttered about it. why might that be ?
I am 100% with you here but the problem is, all those people seem to actually believe that Onecoin has no blockchain at all and the proof of that to them is this animated GIF argument and playing with that script in back office :D What more can we say :)

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Re: welcome tim !

Post by flatrate » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:32 pm

yes, they will do or say just about anything to discredit or mislead the world about ONE. they have taken "poisoning the well" to a new dimension my brother. always remember, the so called critiques-haters-etc are not here for the reason they say.

IE, cryptoxpose claimed to be working with authorities and is doing what he does because he is honest and wants to warn about the ONE scam..

really ? if he and eagleclown were so concerned about people being harmed by crypto scams, they would be leading the charge and shouting from the roof tops applauding ONE being KYC compliant and KYC in block. i have posted links in previous post about all the scams that cost normal good people to be scammed daily but do they care ? no.. just trash ONE..

secretly, they want nothing more than ONE to fail so they can keep the current bitcoin jackpot casinos cooking along for as long as possible.

why do you think tim hardly ever mentions KYC ? he knows that KYC is going to be the unraveling of btc in end.

ruja was ahead of the curve big time on KYC and is main reason i am a risk taker in ONE.

furthermore, i think you do know, but most people do not have a clue about how criminal the current digital currency landscape truly is. i mean all of it brother. these scammers even were able to make the ICO frauds appear real and invest-able. ;) ;)

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Re: welcome tim !

Post by slobodanboda » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:37 pm

I was wondering why this topic about blockchain is forced so much.
Today you can buy very easy blockchain on various platforms and each little serious ICO will buy blockchain.
Those haters keep blockchain topic only for 1 reasons.
1. Try get code on anyway and then they could destroy OC mining and whole project, I mean their bosses.
2. They force blockchain story as something mystic because people so not understand what really ir means so it can be well used as story.

Nobody from them would not say that blockchain needs for OC can be enough just one server or cloud.
OC has no open mining, only company can do it so they don't need huge number of connections, memory or whatever.
It can be arranged with quite simply equipment but this demystifakcion is not their interest because they can lose main base dor their fake stories.
What else they can attack, blockchain is their goal as I said it sounds mystic.
Maybe this topic could be really mystic 3 years ago but now blockchain can buy everybody like buy bread in bakery.
So, even after Igor announced that investigation confirmed that blockchain exist they still keep their story. If they lose this next period will be so bore. We will just wait October without their attacks. Now we just use countdown period to make it more interesting. Image how bore can be next months just for waiting October. Go, haters make next period not so bore.

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Re: welcome tim !

Post by flatrate » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:20 pm

slobo,
the tim tayshun two step copy-paste information is meant to mislead and misdirect. i do not even bother reading unless its short and sane.

the bitcoin army do not want ONE to fail, they need it to fail to keep the biggest scam in history going. ;)

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Re: welcome tim !

Post by TimTayshun » Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:59 pm

@Slobo
RE:
Today you can buy very easy blockchain
The CORE ARGUMENT here is not that its impossible, costly or even difficult.
It's that:
1.) Blockchains are not retroactive, and therefore publishing a blockchain and revealing the Genesis Block reveals the date the scam was attempted to be covered up (ie., there was no blockchain #1 and there was no "new blockchain" on Oct. 1, 2016). The date of the genesis block will be much, much later when AND IF Onecoin ever releases anything even resembling a blockchain.

2.) Ignatova and Sebastian (and their bosses) were so *ignorant of cryptocurrency when they started Onecoin (fresh out of BigCoin scam, which also had no blockchain at the time) that they always thought they could "go back and build a blockchain later, if they needed to." So, it wasn't even a matter of cost. At the time they could have literally had one built for under $10K. BUT THEY DIDN'T. Now, the reason the Macau white paper was never released and no other white paper or technical info (or for the Love of God, a fracking block explorer at least!) is simply because it would reveal fraud to the Authorities who are hot on their ass now. If it were only for the members, they would've already released blockchain #3 (which they would have called blockchain #2 [which would really be blockchain #1]).

*Sebastian is said to have been the "Master Distributor." But, Sebastian himself admitted early on that he had never even owned any cryptocurrency himself, and Ruja said in April 2016 that "it took 3 days to download the (bitcoin) blockchain so that we could accept payment in bitcoin" - which is the most nonsensical lie ever, as it takes 3 minutes (10 max) to set up a secure bitcoin wallet, which can record almost half a million payments daily.

Onecoins new fake blockchain is so significantly different than their old fake blockchain, that all it would take is to show proof of the old one ever having existed and confirming the genesis block and a few random transactions. Onecoin would literally shut up the entire cryptocurrency industry, community, consumer protection advocate groups and individuals AND the Authorities overnight! It's an older (alleged) technology, and has no bearing on the alleged new blockchain or its functionality. The two (claim to) use entirely different algorithms (although its funny that early leaked white paper plans based it. on an ERC20 token - comedy gold!). It claimed to use a Proof of Work (POW) algorithm, which was the first OBVIOUS sign it was an fraud, and not even Ruja could explain it, let alone did she understand her own alleged creation (in conjunction with "5 Indian Mathematicians" - Lol, which was her claim).

NO ONE has EVER been able to give an acceptable answer as to the simple question/ request: "WHY doesn't Onecoin just show the damn 3 year ago blockchain and shut everyone up!" - which is a LOGICAL and really only necessary question to clear Onecoin from the onslaught of "haters."

The common AND STUPID answer is, "...ummmm, well ....its still private ....ummm ...and the company doesn't have to show it if it doesn't want to," which is just a terrible, TERRIBLE answer, especially with main stream media calling it fake, goat's warning that its fake, freaking international raids, and over 80 arrests of affiliates in at least 7 countries on 3 continents! Do you think those 80 arrests would've happened if Onecoin simply showed its "blockchain #1!?!?" At least half or more of them wouldn't have!

So, can ANY reader give a non BS answer why EVEN NOW the old and abandon technology/ blockchain is being. kept secret STILL!?! I'm all ears!

Of course, there is NO REASON not to show blockchain #1 and EVERY REASON to show it, as it eliminates the #1 criticism from both the entire crypto community and the International Police. It would FINALLY PROVE that Onecoin wasn't just the same invisible "trading bot" which BitConnect used (in that neither has ever existed). So, think about it and WAKE UP!

If Onecoin showed their blockchain #1, the cryptocurrency community would say, "WoW! They had one after all! Too bad their coin still sucks, but whatever." ....and then you would NEVER hear from us again.

The obvious and ONLY problem is that you can't "show" that which does not exist and is only vapor.

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Re: welcome tim !

Post by slobodanboda » Thu Mar 22, 2018 11:18 pm

Tim,
I understand your wish and energy to prove something and you tried place logical conclusion but you also must understand one very important thing.
If I am policeman and I saw killer how kill his victim shall I arrest him immediate or leave him, use address and say: Ok, wait I will come and pick you up some of next days.
You wanna prove illegal activities and I wanna tell you that you can't do this.
My sample with killer is related with investigation from Germany and Bulgaria prosecutors.
They took servers and we must believe that they check something what was their target, right.
So, if they found anything illegal normal is expect that they have right immediate close company, lock all doors and maybe keep somebody arrested some days, but from my corner, nothing was happened from all.
Natural reaction even for common people must be : WHAY NOBODY ARRESTED, WHY NOT CLOSE COMPANY.......................
So, all your "facts" now are not facts just your trial to make logical conclusions but we are talking about serious thing, real facts which can close company and destroy last 4 years of hard work for many people.
if I need you for opinion I can ask you opinion but when I need official judgment well known is who is in charge for this.
I know that your answer will be: still is not all over.
I agree it's not and maybe we are far from German judgment but like I make sample, if they found real and flagrant cases like washing money, Ponzi, cheating people or any other hard law deviation for sure now we should have locked offices in Sofia and all people from top of management somewhere in illegal life and far Pacific islands, but reality is different, all are there with much more activities in last month then maybe whole last year, all of them are in inner circle and work on preparing for Oct.08th.
I can respect your opinion, I can respect you legal wish that you prove something but this is just your OPINION, not judgment.
I hope you can stay away from hard accuses about anybody personally before any official decision.

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Re: welcome tim !

Post by Igorkrnic » Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:03 am

TimTayshun wrote:
Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:59 pm
1.) Blockchains are not retroactive, and therefore publishing a blockchain and revealing the Genesis Block reveals the date the scam was attempted to be covered up (ie., there was no blockchain #1 and there was no "new blockchain" on Oct. 1, 2016). The date of the genesis block will be much, much later when AND IF Onecoin ever releases anything even resembling a blockchain.
Why do you still talk about there is no blockchain cause investigators made an audit and saw that there is one?
Or you thinkg that also is a lie? Why doun't you shut up at least until it is official.

TimTayshun wrote:
Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:59 pm
Ruja said in April 2016 that "it took 3 days to download the (bitcoin) blockchain so that we could accept payment in bitcoin" - which is the most nonsensical lie ever, as it takes 3 minutes (10 max) to set up a secure bitcoin wallet, which can record almost half a million payments daily.
Not true, depending on what wallet you use, you need to sync. You need to download the whole blockchain. It took me about 2 days to sync mine back in 2015 when I was accepting bitcoins on my former business. Not sure if they changed something now so you can use it before syncing, but back in 2015 we needed to sync.
TimTayshun wrote:
Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:59 pm
NO ONE has EVER been able to give an acceptable answer as to the simple question/ request: "WHY doesn't Onecoin just show the damn 3 year ago blockchain and shut everyone up!" - which is a LOGICAL and really only necessary question to clear Onecoin from the onslaught of "haters."
It is obvious they can not show anything that would be satisfactory without making possible for others to join mining.
Also, authorities are free to come and see it. They just did that in Jan/Feb

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