The CROSS ROADS - To be or not to be - German Investigation

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Re: The CROSS ROADS - To be or not to be - German Investigation

Post by Igorkrnic » Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:49 pm

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Re: The CROSS ROADS - To be or not to be - German Investigation

Post by OneCoinTruth » Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:32 am

What happened with OneMillionShop? They suddenly stopped accepting OneCoins and removed all DealShaker deals? Why??

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Re: The CROSS ROADS - To be or not to be - German Investigation

Post by OneCoinTruth » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:32 pm

Mixmaster wrote:
Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:34 am
Hi All,

I'm new here. I have been reading but have not posted till now. It says that there are only 11 members here on this forum when I registered so was a little surprised.

Regarding the last post with link. Can someone translate and clarify as it's not in English? Would google translate but thought I should ask first. Thanks.

Warmest regards,
OCSI (One coin small investor :)
I'm trying to write here but my posts are not for some reason published. I asked about the OneMillionShop situation, but it was not published due to the message containing "links to illegal or pirated software". But there was no such links. Strange.

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Re: The CROSS ROADS - To be or not to be - German Investigation

Post by Igorkrnic » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:05 pm

OneCoinTruth wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:32 pm
I'm trying to write here but my posts are not for some reason published. I asked about the OneMillionShop situation, but it was not published due to the message containing "links to illegal or pirated software". But there was no such links. Strange.
For everyone that comes here first 5 posts are moderated so I approve them. It is a protection from spam bots and there are more than 100 posts each day that I disapprove from spammers. Probably I sometimes overlook and Disapprove some real post. But here is your post again.

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Re: The CROSS ROADS - To be or not to be - German Investigation

Post by Igorkrnic » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:17 pm

OneCoinTruth wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:32 am
What happened with OneMillionShop? They suddenly stopped accepting OneCoins and removed all DealShaker deals? Why??
Oh but they were a failure for a long time. I wrote from the first batch when they organized that gala dinner and delivered several cars that I think those deals dangerous. Even dr Ruja said on her last webinar in May 2017 to watch out for deals that take money outside dealshaker. But no, network people bought a bunch of cars anyway and many of them are now struggling to get their money back.
In fact, in order to honor past deals and return the money they are now conducting their own ICO with project that I better not comment here.

Of course, their defense for this situation is the fact that Onecoin postponed public trading from Q2 2018 to Q4 2018 but that is false in my opinion cause they did not deliver cars from December batch and that is long before Q2 2018.

So, in summary, onemillionshop was too bold project, they made something they could not deliver. I don't think they are a scam, they are just in a problem and need to stall until they can deliver any sort of cars with a huge delay or return money to people.
I know people that signed 3+6 months delay and accepted switch of a car brand (from Kodiak to Passat) and I know people who demanded money back and I helped them get their coins back from the deal. For the money, they need to work out with Onemillionshop.

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Re: The CROSS ROADS - To be or not to be - German Investigation

Post by OneCoinTruth » Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:58 pm

Ok, but what about Kralev Cars deals? Those deals are even more amazing than what OneMillionShop had! For example 3000 coupons MITSUBISHI ASX 1.6 MIVEC with only about 1034 Onecoins coming available on October 8th! What's your take on Kralev Cars?? The deals look absolutely insane even compared to OneMillionShop!
Doesn't Kralev need to sell over 3 million Onecoins , in order to be able to pay the car manufacturers, to cover this one deal alone?! And they have several other deals like this. Do you think Kralev deals are dangerous too, or are Kralev deals actually legit? Can we get your official take on this, Igor?!

https://dealshaker.com/en/deal/discount ... EngaZxNxq0~

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Re: The CROSS ROADS - To be or not to be - German Investigation

Post by OneCoinTruth » Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:33 pm

I have a follow up question which came to my mind after taking a more closer look at the Kralev Cars deals.
Kralev Car's deals coming for sale on October 8th:

1500*1208.47 ONE = 1812705 ONE
200*1292.98 ONE = 258596 ONE
1000*1452.78 ONE = 1452780 ONE
1000*1864.41 ONE = 1864410 ONE
1000*2276.03 ONE = 2276030 ONE
2000*2663.44 ONE = 5326880 ONE
1000*1622.28 ONE = 1622280 ONE
350*2806.92 ONE = 982422 ONE
500*1854.72 ONE = 927360 ONE
600*2180.63 ONE = 1308378 ONE
500*1645.52 ONE = 822760 ONE
3000*1034.62 ONE = 3103860 ONE
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Total: 21 758 461 ONE
* 20.75 €
= 451 488 065 €

This one dealer alone brings probably over 21 million ONEs to the market for sale after October 8th in order to pay the car manufacturers. My worry is, how are normal people going to be able to sell their coins if merchants like Kralev Cars have the priority?? This one dealer alone needs almost half a billion euros from the markets. This is actually quite scary?!? What do you think??? Is it sure that there actually is billions of euros demand for OneCoin after October 8th??? How is this going to work otherwise?!? But if people can't sell their coins because merchants have the priority, will there be demand for a coin that is not sellable for normal people?!?!?!

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Re: The CROSS ROADS - To be or not to be - German Investigation

Post by Igorkrnic » Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:25 am

Sure but those deals start at October 08 when ONE is supposed to be publicly traded. So if that fails of be delayed Kralev can just cancel deas so no danage is made to anyone. Onemillionshop jumped before the cart.

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Re: The CROSS ROADS - To be or not to be - German Investigation

Post by detroyer » Thu Apr 12, 2018 1:01 am

OneCoinTruth wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:33 pm
My worry is, how are normal people going to be able to sell their coins if merchants like Kralev Cars have the priority?? This one dealer alone needs almost half a billion euros from the markets. This is actually quite scary?!? What do you think??? Is it sure that there actually is billions of euros demand for OneCoin after October 8th??? How is this going to work otherwise?!?
It's not scary for me, if you analyze the volumes of exchange within 24 hours of the other cryptocurrencies you will notice that 451 488 065 € is nothing compared to the.
volume of Exchange 24 h:
BTC... 24 v = 4.46 B $
ETH... 24 v = 1.36 B $
EOS... 24 v = 1.35 B $
BCH... 24 v = 240.90 M $
CTA... 24 v = 201.27 M $
XPR... 24 v = 195.59 M $
for only these six crypto you have a total of 7.807 B $ volume of Exchange per day.
volume of kralev offer only represents 6% of volume of these crypto, assuming that kralev sells all its car the same day and he submits all his ones to exchange the same day as that is not possible in my opinion.
the question I ask ?
what kralev can meet the demand of buyers ?? because the number of cars that he puts on sale is very important compared to the production of the builders..
Example vw produces 500 000 tiguan annually to leave on all dealers around the world. and kralev proposes 1000 tiguan on DS ? delivery can take a long time. OC will need to monitor everything.

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Re: The CROSS ROADS - To be or not to be - German Investigation

Post by Igorkrnic » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:02 am

Good point.
But ONE is not supposed to be traded as an asset like other crypto tokens and coins ended up.
I personally would prefer to use my coins for years to come and potentially increase in value.

We also must not ignore experts and the inverted yield curve that tell us the recession is coming at q4 2018 following decades established pattern every 10 years (1998, 2008) but this time world have cryptos.
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Since bitcoin and other cryptos lost peoples interest and institutional speculative money is about to pour in:
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We can only hope that ONE can bring some stability so people will use it but that will not come without a war and we see it for 2.5 years now and it will certainly not stop any time soon.

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