Real value of onecoin

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SwissAndrew
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Re: Real value of onecoin

Post by SwissAndrew » Thu May 16, 2019 10:59 pm

@TimT
it is really futile to keep arguing about something neither of us can know for certain.
for my part, I will wait to see what the future brings.
we both have our points of view, so let`s wait to see how the price
of OC develops, private exchange or not.

TimTayshun
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Re: Real value of onecoin

Post by TimTayshun » Thu May 16, 2019 11:12 pm

While we critics DO already know the answer, and with 100% certainty (we've seen this all before),
I appreciate the honesty and thought put into that answer from you.
Thank you.

detroyer
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Re: Real value of onecoin

Post by detroyer » Thu May 16, 2019 11:18 pm

Borso wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 6:51 pm
I do not understand at all like you people like Tim Tashyun at all the possibility offers here a discussion about which he has no idea at all . Just like you yourselves . none of you really know what is behind it and indeed none.
Borso, you're right Bro,
TimTayshun wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 5:58 pm
1. Jews in Nazi Germany thought they were going to "the showers."
2. They thought they were being given bathing courtesies

- Yes. If Hitler only had another week, he would've surely proven himself the greatest philanthropist and humanitarian in history....accaccording to your lineof LOGIC. Right?
Tim has a reason to be here, I think he has the complex of superiority, the same that possesses the falcons of the pantagon, the saviors of the world but in reality history will remember that all the misfortunes of world come from Uncle Sam, (Hiroshima and nagasaki, war Korea, Vietnam, Nicaragua, Cuba, Yugoslavia, Iraq 1 and 2, Afganistan, Syria, the next, venzuela, Iran and others .... )
Reading these last posts and with all my respect to Jews, he slipped without realizing, the apology of the haulocoste by comparing the onecoin members to the Jews of Europe who were asked to go in the showers to then realize that it was too late for them and now he's talking about Hitler and his wish to revive the 3rd Reich, comparing the OC members to the Jews and Ruja to hitler is no coincidence, he has this Yankee madness that wants everything to be controlled by the Americans and that we will be saved by DOJ and the FBI .....

Tim, well tried, but you have to review your history books, because; it's Russians, who first came to Berlin and it's they who are the first to liberate the Jews of Aushwitz, but Patton's propaganda did the work behind the offices in London to have the merit, as you Make yourself and your friends troll with your propaganda anti-onecoin since 5 years behind your computers.

Tim, you may be Jewish but it has no resemblance to OC
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SwissAndrew
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Re: Real value of onecoin

Post by SwissAndrew » Thu May 16, 2019 11:27 pm

TimTayshun wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 11:12 pm
While we critics DO already know the answer, and with 100% certainty (we've seen this all before),
I appreciate the honesty and thought put into that answer from you.
Thank you.
you`re welcome, but you will surely regret writing those words.........
nevertheless, one final thought before I call it a day - if a private exchange can be used by the public
then that makes it by definition a public exchange (held in private hands)

Yevhenii
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Re: Real value of onecoin

Post by Yevhenii » Thu May 16, 2019 11:59 pm

TimTayshun wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 11:12 pm
While we critics DO already know the answer, and with 100% certainty (we've seen this all before),
I appreciate the honesty and thought put into that answer from you.
Thank you.
The paradox is that you (who call themselves “critics”) position yourself as defenders of the law, refer to laws and regulations. At the same time, you yourself do not observe legal norms, which is unforgivable for a critic.

Justice4all
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Re: Real value of onecoin

Post by Justice4all » Fri May 17, 2019 3:16 am

Dummis-1 wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 8:07 pm
SwissAndrew wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 8:03 pm
Bla.bla.
.."have you noticed everyone, they are beginning to backtrack !!
not long ago an exchange would NEVER come"

You do understand Onecoins launch on their internal playground exchange is NOT the same as going public right? As on a public exchange?
Instead of buying SQL-db Ponzi points you get from packages, you get them from the internal private exchange.

And the first post in this thread, go to page 1:
That's why they claim in the future the public exchange will be internal, their own exchange. Where people buy x coins from SQL db or Excel document with Fiat and they allocate the correct coins to the buyer.
That's from like 2 months ago?
Of course they can open their own private exchange, that won't change a thing? What exactly do you think will change with that?
There's still 3.5m members waiting to sell - no buyers.
And if they let anyone join the exchange that won't change a thing either. This coin/trashycoin without a blockchain (and obvious scam with everyone in jail) is not something investors would ever touch, even less join your playground ponzi exchange and pay 100x more per coin than they do if they bought a package instead.
Oh and give these scammers their identity.
O m g you people are stupid.
How do you know that Onecoin company will open an internal exchange? Did they say that anywhere? According to the progress reports that the corporate sent out to the leaders the exchange they are working for is Public, that's why they need to obtain licenses and make sure they comply with each local regulations. All your claims are purely speculations without any grounds. Nobody can predict the future and how it will become. Remember the French song "que sera, sera, Whatever will be, will be. The future's not ours to see? Nobody can predict for 100% sure. But you are welcome to guess.

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Re: Real value of onecoin

Post by Curry Hater » Fri May 17, 2019 4:20 am

EagleOne wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 8:12 pm
I always like to know with whom I am having a discussion with.
How about you ? Why do you hide behind a nickname ?
If you think you are on the ‘right’ side, I mean the justice side, why don’t you reveal your identity so that we know where you’re talking from ?
You have nothing to fear, you’re on the right side after all, so why don’t you simply say you are Lynndel ‘Lynn’ Badminton ?

TimTayshun
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Re: Real value of onecoin

Post by TimTayshun » Fri May 17, 2019 5:13 am

@detroyer (and all)

Well, Ruja has a similar megalomaniac personality as Hitler, and she's a sociopath.
So, there's that.

Also, her insane level greed and disdain for morality and lack of empathy for her fellow human beings, combined with her criminal mind, will also result in the death of innocent people (albeit, not "genocidal murder," but certainly many suicides and "financial genocide" for the alleged 3.5 million investors).

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat"
- George Santayana

Flash-back to 2015 & 2016 Onecoin Banking History
AKA: "COMPLIANCE"


Despite Onecoin often claiming they are "compliant" and practice CML/ KYC, this is by far one of the funniest LIES from the company.
Even during the first 2 real years of operations, when the fraud system was still predominantly flying under the radar of most Authorities and Regulators, Onecoin lost a record number of bank accounts in a very, very short period of time due to the very AML lies they pretend to have:

Bank Name = BOLD
Shell Company = BLUE

  • 1.) DSK Bank (Sofia Bulgaria) as One Network Services, Ltd. – this was their first bank (Start Date unknown/ active through October 2015)
  • 2.) Mashreq Bank - Address: Injaz Building #2, 3rd Floor, Dubai Outsource Zone, Manama Street, UAE Dubai, United Arab Emirates, as: One Coin Ltd. Start Date unknown/ End Date: 9 September 2015
  • 3.) NOOR Bank in Dubai – as One Coin Ltd – dates unknown (2015?)
    (LASTED ONLY WEEKS?)
  • 4.) JSC Capital Bank in Georgia (the country) as One Payments Ltd. – opened Nov., 2015/ Closed Dec. 2015
    (LASTED 1 MONTH)
  • 5.) TD Bank (Canadian bank subsidiary based out the US [FL]) as One EUX LLC – opened Dec. 03, 2015/ Closed Feb. 2016
    Toronto Dominion Bank in Canada – as One EUX, LLC. – dates unknown (Same as TD above?)
    (LASTED 2 MONTHS)
  • 6.) LLOYDS TSB BANK PLC (U.K.) – Early March to Early April 2016
    (LASTED 1 MONTH)
  • 7.) Hermes Bank in St. Lucia (Oct. 13, 2015)
    Numerous Onecoin Affiliates, including Tommi Viourinen (Finnish Country Ambassador) and Ken Labine, fraudulently claim that Onecoin purchased this bank.
    (NEVER EVEN HAPPENED! 100% LIES)
  • 8.) (BANKS?) Onecoin U.S. Leader (and inner circle equivalent then) Sal Leto quotes Ruja stating that Onecoin is buying a US Bank and QUOTE: “(OneCoin) has acquired a hundred and eighty banking licenses, to legally own their own banks, their own branch and their own office, inside all one hundred and eighty countries that we operate in.” – Sept. 2015
    (NEVER EVEN HAPPENED!/ 100% LIES)
    NOTE: Sal Leto later negotiated access to the entire USA database of affiliates with Ruja in January 2017 to build "I-Pro Network" (another MLM ponzi coin scam, but with a real blockchain)
  • 9.) United Overseas Bank Ltd in Singapore – opened as International Marketing Services Pte. Ltd. on June 2016, closed Nov. 4th, 2016
    (LASTED LESS THAN 5 MONTHS)
  • 10.) Zala-Group LTD: Onecoin Pre-Paid Mastercard Merchant Processor – The issuing merchant is identified as Zala-Group LTD, "a 'client' of North International Bank."
    (LASTED 2 MONTHS?)
    (Note: The card was suspended after the CEO/ Director of Zala-Group Ltd., Martin Henry Beckett, was convicted in being part of a 24 million EURO drug smuggling operation in March 2016)
    SOURCE: https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/d ... 07336.html - Beckett was later convicted and given a nine-year, 10-month sentence,
  • 11.) Bank of Africa (T) Ltd. – as IMS Marketing Tanzania Ltd. (International Marketing Services Pte. Ltd.) – opened April 16, 2016/ closed November 30, 2016
    (LASTED 7 1/2 MONTHS)
  • 12.) China UnionPay (Merchant Processor) Opened late 2014 / closed April 31, 2016
  • 13.) New China UnionPay Intl.. – Merchant Processor card approved (as One Net UPI) May 10, 2016/ closed Nov. 2016.

    NOTE: Canadian Onecoin scammer, Ken Labine and other Onecoin affiliates went on record contending that, “We can now purchase goods and services using Onecoin!”
    However, China UnionPay Intl. issued a STATEMENT contesting this claim as being “inconsistent with facts.”
  • 14.) HSBC Bank Building (Dubai), Al Suq Road, Bur Dubai – Dubai -United (opened july 2016) Active with daily withdrawals and 4 credit lines available. All of these were directly connected to a top spokesman in Onecoin, Frank Rickets and IMS (as I recall).
    Described as “brokering consult billing for account opening in trading precious metals with Forex platform and integration possibility in OneForex activities.” (closed Sept. 2016)
    (LASTED JUST 2 MONTHS)
  • 15.) DBS Bank in Singapore – as International Marketing Services Pte. Ltd
  • 16.) Kreissparkasse Steinfurt Bank Germany (opened 2015 / closed March 25, 2016)
    (1 YEAR)
  • 17.) Commerzbank AG (Germany’s 2nd largest bank) Opened March ‘16/ closed June 07, ‘16
    (LASTED LESS THAN 4 MONTHS)
  • 18.) Deutsche Bank (Germany’s Largest bank) – as IMS International Marketing Services GmBH (another shell company OneCoin acquired when they purchased OPN Network’s affiliate-base).
NOTE: IMS (International Marketing Services) and many variations, were owned by Frank Ricketts. Frank Ricketts was the CEO of OPN [formerly Unaico scam] and SiteTalk [social media side of both]) – opened June 09, 2016 / closed almost immediately after Germany announced they were conducting an investigation into OneCoin -WHICH REMAINS ONGOING. By August 19th, ‘16, they were no longer with Deutsche Bank. Some months later, guess who shows up as "Onecoin Advisor" and begins touring the world on Onecoin victim's dime, after all of his other scams had collapsed? Yep! Frank Rickets.
(ACCOUNT LASTED JUST 2 MONTHS)
  • 19.) Banca Monte Dei Paschi Di Siena, Italy (as Educamax Services SRL )
    Opened Sept. 20/16, closed Sept. 21/16 (ie., within 24 hr!)
    (LASTED LESS THAN 24 HOURS!) :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
  • 20.) China Construction Bank (Asia) Corporation Limited, under the shell company Foshan Everbright Import & Export Company Limited(seriously? WTF?). Opened around Oct. 4th, 2016, closed Oct. 19th, 2016
    (LASTED 2 WEEKS)
  • 21.) United Overseas Bank Ltd in Singapore - this account is held under the shell company Vernada Trading Pte Ltd. - opened around October 30th, 2016 CLOSED ON NOV. 10TH
    (LASTED 5 WEEKS)


MEANWHILE, BACK IN PONZI LAND: according to recent Onecoin propaganda:
"The Company will launch The New EXCHANGE, but is waiting for some various "compliance approvals." Lol


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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TimTayshun
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Re: Real value of onecoin

Post by TimTayshun » Fri May 17, 2019 5:18 am

Justice4all wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 3:16 am

According to the progress reports that the corporate sent out to the leaders the exchange they are working for is Public, that's why they need to obtain licenses and make sure they comply with each local regulations. All your claims are purely speculations without any grounds. Nobody can predict the future and how it will become.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
see above "Banks" (AKA: "Compliance"/ AML)


They never bothered obtaining a single license in 5 years (there was more than plenty of time),
so why would they spend the money they stole on that now for an Exchange which has been promised since 2015?

VIDEO: "Onecoin Exchange is Opening" - Ruja (circa May 15, 2015)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUXwnrNNREQ&t=12s

EagleOne
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Re: Real value of onecoin

Post by EagleOne » Fri May 17, 2019 5:32 am

Curry Hater wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 4:20 am
EagleOne wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 8:12 pm
I always like to know with whom I am having a discussion with.
How about you ? Why do you hide behind a nickname ?
If you think you are on the ‘right’ side, I mean the justice side, why don’t you reveal your identity so that we know where you’re talking from ?
You have nothing to fear, you’re on the right side after all, so why don’t you simply say you are Lynndel ‘Lynn’ Badminton ?
Says the person who uses a moniker and not his real name. I don't have to since you know who I am (well you got pretty close except for the last name, but then you know what it is), so why ask the question in the first place? So stop hiding behind your moniker and tell us who you are. Now you aren't scared to are you?

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