You neither said anything about being 100% sure about not being a scam, nor that I can't talk about it. I have screencapture of the conversation in your private message, so you can check yourself.Igorkrnic wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:00 amIt it not the matter of my opinion that "this can also be a scam". Point is that I told you not to transfer partially our conversation cause it can me misunderstood. For example, you only said "you said to me privately that this can be 50-50 scam" but you failed to finish that I am 100% sure in this "not a scam" half. The other "scam" half is in the case I am wrong. But the way you put it people can wonder wtf I am doing here if I am 50-50. That is why I said to honor privacy but this is not your first time. You have no honor man.
Do you happen ro remember how you found out about Layla an Catherine case? From me. The company should have some easy procedure for situations like this. Hell, Catherine didn't have any idea even about his OneLife account. Her money was just gone. The company didn't do anything. Bank finally confiscated scammers' money and returned a part for Catherine. Afaik Layla still haven't got anything back.But if you are scammed and dragged into "victim support group", all you get is poison, no help. And company do not care for people feeding on there, they focus on people who follow the protocol. Layla did it perfectly with myu guidance, ask her for opinion about me, I was in CC all the way.
Anyway, you are not even a fking company employee right? So why the f, only thing that can be hope to happen, is that we inform you, you inform the company? Somewhere something is VERY wrong.
I know several cases where people haven't had any connection to the company, only to their upline. The company should have set up easy procedure contact and process procedure for situations like these, but of course there's no such thing. This great company has not even 1 fking public phone number. Nor they are willing to call to these people.
Heh, with the scam cases there has already been, it's them who should be scared. It doesn't work like that, that you set up scam marketing, and then refuse any responsibility. It doesn't work like that. If anyone is witch hunted, it's them, and we decide if we do it or not. But hopefully authorities do it anyway. There's no escaping responsiblity when you set up marketing like that. And it's good Italy's AGCM confirmed it. Not to mention the company worked almost 2 years without any compliancy what so ever allowing totally ruthless marketing in order to gain lots of members.As for the company, I do not agree with many of the ways they are doing certain things but they are changing the tune slowly. I know the stuff.
Their vision will be hard to pull off, but we all need to work, the company cannot do it by themselves. And you guys are only making it harder.
I've heard so many people that state if all this pulls of after 2018 they will invest a substantial amount of resource into hater witch hunt. Can't say I agree with them.
So yeah, come witch hunt us and see what happens, though there's noting else pull off than a scam.. Well, Tim is being witch hunted by the company, Principe acting as a proxy with this harrasment suit. Principe who lies that he never got any money from the company. We know Principe is not paying his extremely expensive lawyer from his own pockets.. So it's lie after lie after lie, with this company and its people. I don't understand how you can just close your eyes and refuse to see it.
Yeah it's a good thing, but it seems suspiciously as trying to put blame on one person. There's countless scammers like Kari still there.You are so scam blinded that you do not recognize good things:See, no one is protected. No matter how hard you work. It would be like a cow produces a bucket of milk and then kicks and spills it.Onelife News wrote:As a company following an objective approach, all reports issued on Mr. Wahlroos were carefully investigated by a dedicated compliance team in order to determine the validity of the information provided.
The company obviously tries to polish its image by blaming one guy, when the whole system in corrupt.
Sure.. And Zafar, Jose Gordo, Igor Alberts, Udo Deppisch, Parwiz Daud etc etc just to name few big leaders, at least as bad as Kari with scamming. It's totally fairy tale that the network will be clean now that Kari has been kicked out. To me it seems more and more, that Kari's leaving gave the excuse to say that "now new time has started, when this ambassador who broke the rules has left". Suure. These guys listed don't care about any scamming in their downline, they only care about money and lie without any problems. So it's total bullshit that the network will be anywhere close to being "clean".I don't know why they do it now and not before. Again you see it with bad eyes. I see a good thing here. Evolution to cleanse network and to be more professional. Any company can be labeled fishy and possibly scammy until they deliver everything in any industry. Who should Onecoin be an exception.
In my opinion. I think you need to flush old crap, yes there was bad presentations, but people are learning, evolving, fixing mistakes.