Igorkrnic wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:40 pm
But of course, this is only an opinion. I am so sorry to disappoint you guys but cryptocurrency is not Bitcoin. It is opposite. Bitcoin is cryptocurrency. But cryptocurrency is any digital currency that uses cryptography to protect stored data. It can be centralized too, although there are opposite OPINIONS. Much was written about that here
. Also, this is a private stage, public will be different.
It's not an opinion. Please list even 1 cryptocurrency specific property which is apparent for OneCoin user?
I don't see things like:
- public/private key cryptography. You can't have your coins behind your own private key. Ruja can confiscate your coins at any time for any reason
- blockchain address, can't check even your own coin transaction from blockchain
- multisig accounts
So I would really like to hear what there was an opinion? And what cryptocurrency specific property OneCoin has which is apparent for OneCoin user?
I tried to remember some postponed dates but I could not find any. Please enlighten. As I recall, whenever some news were promised, they were delivered in time. as long as it depends on them. Sorry but IPO does not depend on them. They need to work hard with one or more banks that will list the company on the stock exchange. They need to obtain financial licenses. There can be unanticipated obstacles. I believe that's why they just mentioned the end of 2018 for the IPO.
Here are some (broken) promises/delays:
- Ernst & Young -level auditor (instead, there's S-Systems and Atanas. Nobody knows anything about them really)
- Merchants spring 2016
- " We commit to 2.1 billion coins. Can't change it" -Ruja Ignatova
- Merchants when 30% mined
- Going public when 50% mined
- Open source when 80% mined
- Mastercard (They couldn't get it anymore after losing it)
No, cryptocurrency scene is not specialized. Those that you refer to are arrogant geeks who think they are the only ones who know how to make a blockchain. Proof of that is that no one also knew Marcelo Garsia.
You are wrong as usual. Marcelo was known in the crypto/blockchain scene before this OneCoin episode.
See here: https://twitter.com/0xPunk/status/861607285990096897
I already told you, this company does not want to disclose tech team and you can not know how many of them are there. The fact that they are hidden does not mean they do not exist.
Yes, everything is very secret. Even though the company and its leaders claim everything is very transparent. Strange..
CryptoXpose wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 25, 2017 4:28 pm
- Nobody knows the ratio how many coins are owned by the users and how many by the company. No information is released at all. Total non-transparency.
For now, this is as "important" as users seeing their own transactions in the blockchain. This is important when Onecoin is public.
Believe it or not, it is like that. Much worse is done in Bitcoin where the mass of useless altcoins is traded to bitcoin just to pump its value and it is pumped with almost zero cash to back it up. But if people accept it and pay bitcoin price, then it is credible, I agree. So when onecoin goes public, if people want to pay price for Onecoin, it will be credible, if not, value will fall. I can't believe you still debate on internal value of private closed cryptocurrency...
You can't compare anything in Bitcoin to something like 278 times instant "value increase". Which of course is just internal value, not real. But huge number of members do not realize it.
If some one thinks OFCs are dark then simply do not exchange them. If you think Onecoin is shady, do not join. But should the company not list on the stock exchange, OFCs will exchange back to onecoin.
It is shady. That's not very good explanation for the shady situation. "Then don't do it". Well yeah, don't get involved with OneCoin in the first place.
When you write it so randomly it only looks like slander cause you do not have something smart to say. Be specific on what lies had the company said and what agreements did it brake? How is Shariah compliant example?
Do you even know what happened with it? Onecoin got Shariah compliance for ONE COIN COIN SAFE product. And Onelife buzzed all over the internet how Onecoin was accepted by Shariah law. Which is a lie. So Shariah removed even license for COIN SAFE. This only proves that Onelife is the biggest enemy of Onecoin. The company clearly transferred news that license is only for COIN SAFE.
I can't believe you are this ignorant that you still don't know about this case.
Al Huba Cibe writes:
We here clarify that AlHuda CIBE did not certified “OneCoin” as Shariah Compliant Company, and OneCoin management has mistakenly issued a Press Release about the Shariah Certification of OneCoin by AlHuda CIBE, which is removed from their website as well.
Shariah Certificate is not a document to recommend/suggest to anybody for the investment or business transaction or may utilize for the marketing purposes.
Due to the violation of term of certification and non-compliance of the guidelines, AlHuda CIBE also withdraw the certificate of “Coin safe” product as well.
So, do you now see that it was OneCoin management
which advertized Shariah compliancy in wrong way?
And what about Kari Wahlroos, the company ambassador? He has been advertizing OneCoin being Shariah compliant still this year, even though AlHuda removed CoinSafe Shariah compliancy last year already.
This picture is from Kiev even April 2nd 2017. Company ambassador Kari Wahlroos advertizes OneCoin as Shariah compliant in his slides..
This is straight up lying from the company ambassador.
Here is the same in Youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTvXp2f0-Yo&t=2053
If you are going to continue proving your ignorance and misunderstanding then please save your time.
I think I have shown here who is the ignorant one..and it isn't me.