Real value of onecoin

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CryptoXpose
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Re: Real value of onecoin

Post by CryptoXpose » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:20 pm

Curry Hater wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:44 pm
It is moreover amusing how all the official documents and press release carefully avoid talking about the time frame when OneCoin operated in USA. They mention the starting date but they always ‘forget’ mentioning the end date, intentionally giving the ambiguous illusion that OneCoin still operates in USA (which apparently compromises New-York’s financial system).
Tom McMurrain, convicted felon and citizen of USA was still speaking at Onecoin events up until AT LEAST the time that Ruja fled the company.

He had the most victims in USA.

Also, USA citizen, Las Vegas resident, Denis "Mr. 84,000% ROI without risk" Murdock was promoting Onecoin fraud up until THE VERY DAY that Konstantin was arrested, and his website is still online. From the webarchive link above you can see Murdock promoted the 84000% ROI without risk last summer a year ago. Did he get punished for doing it? Of course not, on the contrary he got to meet Konstantin and Crown Diamond Master Distributor Simon Lee in Sofia and started attending events. His bullshit scam writings were spread all over the OneCoin member base and continue being online in Quora.

McMurrain had huge down lines of victims IN THE UNITED STATES! Murdock probably has significant downline too. - thereby compromising the INTEGRITY of the financial systems IN THE USA.

And of course OneCoin still operated "under the table" in USA, Konstantin and Duncan were attending OneCoin/DealShaker related meetings in Las Vegas when Konstantin was arrested.

The integrity of which means that money was flowing OUT OF the U.S. into the bank accounts of NON-U.S. based criminals.

Furthermore, that same money was moved through U.S. criminals, such as those operating http://www.US2moon.com and other money laundering channels, which was created specifically for moving money out of USA.

The most obvious money launderer is of course Mark Scott who is facing indictment for doing it.

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Re: Real value of onecoin

Post by SwissAndrew » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:50 pm

EagleOne wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:54 pm
SwissAndrew was the one who made the claim that Konstantin was "CHARGED" with compromising New York's financial system. It is what started this whole discussion.
you either lie deliberately, or you just can`t help it
don`t know which is worse

I never said K. was CHARGED with "compromising New York's financial system", I said ACCUSED
(do you even know the difference beween accused and charged ?)

here`s part of my relevant post:

1) he is accused of destabilizing the new york financial system
2) the potential success of OC, this is the true reason for his arrest, but since
this is not actually an indictable offence,
the rest of the charges are just crap to give the arrest a veneer of legitimacy


baldeagle
you truly are a piece of lying shit. you twist and pervert every "fact" that comes out of that filthy mouth of yours
surprised you have`nt chocked long ago on your twisted tongue

CryptoXpose
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Re: Real value of onecoin

Post by CryptoXpose » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:53 pm

No, Konstantin is not accused of destabilizing the New York financial system.
The scam is said to COMPROMISE THE INTEGRITY of New York's financial system.

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Re: Real value of onecoin

Post by SwissAndrew » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:58 pm

CryptoXpose wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:53 pm
No, Konstantin is not accused of destabilizing the New York financial system.
The scam is said to COMPROMISE THE INTEGRITY of New York's financial system.

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yeah, have to admit, you got me on that one, a bit sloppy,
but I did link to the relevant document

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Re: Real value of onecoin

Post by CryptoXpose » Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:06 pm

SwissAndrew wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:50 pm
2) the potential success of OC, this is the true reason for his arrest, but since
this is not actually an indictable offence,
the rest of the charges are just crap to give the arrest a veneer of legitimacy
Complete bullshit. There's not anykind of legit potential with a bulgarian scam scheme governed by convicted criminals and totally anonymous unknowns.

To suggest that US Gov and banks would be scared of the "legit potential" of this kind of amateur company run and governed by criminals and unknowns, and marketed to ignorant people by the worst MLM crooks, is desperate and ridiculous.

I ask for the third time: Do you even know who is governing the member assets?

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Re: Real value of onecoin

Post by DelPiero » Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:05 pm

1) he is accused of destabilizing the new york financial system
2) the potential success of OC, this is the true reason for his arrest, but since
this is not actually an indictable offence,
the rest of the charges are just crap to give the arrest a veneer of legitimacy
1. well thats what happens if you scam US citizens on US dollars.
2. both ponzi and pyramid scams have 0% potential for "succes", unless what you are reffering to is ruja and a handfull of "topscammers" running away whit the big bag o monies.

The reason for Konstatins incarceration is stated in his arrest warrant,

Now the true reason (in my opinion) is likely because he is a scammer and a theif and they easily could lay their hands on him. They had bin looking for ruja for sometime already (and apparently Sebastian aswell but him they got hold of at least). Since it seems to be an open and shut case (sofar), im sure they dont mind setting Konstatin up in a cosy cell in NYC, Until he either sings like a birdi our get multiples accounts of self incriminated crimes he committed and spends the next 50ish+ years in us jail.

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Re: Real value of onecoin

Post by flatrate » Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:21 pm

when has ruja failed to appear for court or trial ?

where are all the thousands of victims ? it seems only haters post here spamming law firms they work for ?

where/when did ONE claim we would be rich if we purchased an education package ?

provide clear details in which a startup company only open for 3 months in the US can possibly pose a risk to the biggest financial district in the world. got popcorn for this.

if DS is open, stable and doing deals every minute of every day, how can anyone be a victim right now ? also a victim of what ?

if tokens were not considered securities back in 2015 and no particular law preventing selling education, what standing does the US actually have ?

these are just a few of the 79 we sent to ONE to forward to counsel. we think our side will be prepared.. wink wink ;) ;)

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Re: Real value of onecoin

Post by CryptoXpose » Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:34 pm

@flatrate obviously you don't read our messages.
Or you just want to spam with the same failed questions answered countless times here.

For example nobody has said or claimed that Onecoin 'poses a risk to the biggest financial district in the world'.
What was said is that Onecoin COMPROMISES THE INTEGRITY of New York's financial system.

I don't know how many times this must be pointed out and repeated to get it in your thick cult brainwashed heads.. Or do you have trouble understanding what 'INTEGRITY' means?

Also I have already pointed out a video where Ruja/company promises 118k € -> 12.5 million euro value, if you buy the Ultimate package.

Also I have linked the main Whatsapp Victim Support Group here, and if you browse Onecoin Facebook groups you can find every day countless victims saying they realize they have been scammed.

Ponzi sandbox flea market doesn't change this, most members don't care shit about DS, and its popularity is only going down. All truely valuable deals are waiting for the liquidation to real money which is not coming.

Neither does possible exchange solve anything, it would face impossible 2 Trillion euro ponzi supply economy and no demand. Even if OneCoin opens an exchange, liquidating coins to real money in no-demand system is pretty much impossible in any significant scale.

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Re: Real value of onecoin

Post by CryptoXpose » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:18 am

Heh, Duncan and OneDealer Norway start to co-operate. :)
Note: I don't endorse Duncan's scheme and IMO OneDealer Norway has been scammy by asking booking money in FIAT in advance, and then just announcing: "waiting for the exchange".

But if there's one thing I like in this announcement, it's the: "It is impossible to freeze a Bycoi wallet as any legitimate blockchain is immutable."
A clear poke against OneCoin.
Although it's not really related to the immutability directly, but more to the holding of the wallet private key.

In OneCoin you are NEVER in possession of your own assets (ponzi coupon coins and cash), because the bulgarians (criminals) have always ALL the control of your OneCoin accounts regardless if they would have a blockchain or not. This is one very good reason why OneCoin can't even in theory ever become anything legit and is practically worthless.

https://www.facebook.com/onedealernorwa ... 983229051/

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Re: Real value of onecoin

Post by flatrate » Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:23 am

yep. just as i thought nothing but the bullshit wagon as usual. lie lie lie
What was said is that Onecoin COMPROMISES THE INTEGRITY of New York's financial system.
Integrity -- the state of being whole and undivided.

so, what your saying is that ONE, even though it was a startup and only open for 3 short months in the big bad wealthy US had the capability of dividing or breaking up New York's Financial system ??

what utter bullshit from the bullshit wagon king herself. just wow wow wow.

tim and his distortion has ruined your ability to think critically. wow again. your hate is now laughable sonny. wow again. :roll: :roll:

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